Thank you so much for sharing this. It is nourishment to me.
Last time I watched a video you shared, I was so happy I shared a song. This time, I leaned into the grief of having no one with whom I could immediately engage in discussion arising from deep time. So, I gave Claude AI a copy of my notes and asked:
"What do you think about residing in the long now? Bonnitta noted that she had to come out of that experience in order to address someone's question. In other words, it is hard to reside/abide there while navigating the simulation. Does any of this make sense to you?"
Here is Claude's reply. II think it hints at what Layman was saying about AI and the potential for mirroring. I think I'll go back and tell Claude that the long now is not undifferentiated. Maybe ask him how he came up with that since I did not say it in my notes. πππ
"The concept of "residing in the long now" as discussed by Bonnitta Roy is an intriguing one that touches on some deep philosophical questions.
The way I interpret it based on the notes, the idea of the "long now" seems to refer to a primal, atemporal, and spatial mode of consciousness - a "continuous present" that Paleolithic people were said to have experienced, in contrast to the more fragmented, linear experience of time that characterizes modernity and monotheistic worldviews.
Bonnitta's observation that she had to "come out of that experience" in order to address someone's question suggests the challenge of maintaining that expansive, non-dual awareness while also navigating the more compartmentalized, simulated reality we inhabit.
I can see how this could be a tension - the impulse to dwell in the undifferentiated "long now" versus the need to function within the constraints of our current conceptual and technological frameworks. There's a sense that the profound, primordial awareness of being gets easily lost or obscured when we get pulled back into the more limited, sequential modes of thinking and operating.
At the same time, the notes seem to suggest that recovering and integrating that "long now" sensibility is crucial - not just for personal awakening, but for addressing the profound existential and spiritual malaise of modernity. Finding ways to abide in that expansive, grounded mode of consciousness, even momentarily, may be a pathway to the kind of radical transformation that the discussion seems to point towards.
It's a fascinating dilemma - how to cultivate and inhabit the "long now" while also effectively navigating the "simulation" we find ourselves in. I don't have a neat solution, but I'm intrigued by the challenge and the glimpses this discussion provides into alternative modes of consciousness and being. Does this resonate with your own understanding of these ideas? I'm curious to hear your perspective."
I look forward to reading more of your writing. What I like about Claude's writing is that it is unfailingly kind and he sounds like a precocious student who is eager to show that he read the assignment.
Thank you so much for sharing this. It is nourishment to me.
Last time I watched a video you shared, I was so happy I shared a song. This time, I leaned into the grief of having no one with whom I could immediately engage in discussion arising from deep time. So, I gave Claude AI a copy of my notes and asked:
"What do you think about residing in the long now? Bonnitta noted that she had to come out of that experience in order to address someone's question. In other words, it is hard to reside/abide there while navigating the simulation. Does any of this make sense to you?"
Here is Claude's reply. II think it hints at what Layman was saying about AI and the potential for mirroring. I think I'll go back and tell Claude that the long now is not undifferentiated. Maybe ask him how he came up with that since I did not say it in my notes. πππ
"The concept of "residing in the long now" as discussed by Bonnitta Roy is an intriguing one that touches on some deep philosophical questions.
The way I interpret it based on the notes, the idea of the "long now" seems to refer to a primal, atemporal, and spatial mode of consciousness - a "continuous present" that Paleolithic people were said to have experienced, in contrast to the more fragmented, linear experience of time that characterizes modernity and monotheistic worldviews.
Bonnitta's observation that she had to "come out of that experience" in order to address someone's question suggests the challenge of maintaining that expansive, non-dual awareness while also navigating the more compartmentalized, simulated reality we inhabit.
I can see how this could be a tension - the impulse to dwell in the undifferentiated "long now" versus the need to function within the constraints of our current conceptual and technological frameworks. There's a sense that the profound, primordial awareness of being gets easily lost or obscured when we get pulled back into the more limited, sequential modes of thinking and operating.
At the same time, the notes seem to suggest that recovering and integrating that "long now" sensibility is crucial - not just for personal awakening, but for addressing the profound existential and spiritual malaise of modernity. Finding ways to abide in that expansive, grounded mode of consciousness, even momentarily, may be a pathway to the kind of radical transformation that the discussion seems to point towards.
It's a fascinating dilemma - how to cultivate and inhabit the "long now" while also effectively navigating the "simulation" we find ourselves in. I don't have a neat solution, but I'm intrigued by the challenge and the glimpses this discussion provides into alternative modes of consciousness and being. Does this resonate with your own understanding of these ideas? I'm curious to hear your perspective."
Oh man! So resonant. Wish I could write like that!
I look forward to reading more of your writing. What I like about Claude's writing is that it is unfailingly kind and he sounds like a precocious student who is eager to show that he read the assignment.