I really enjoyed this conversation and the way that you and Rafe engaged in both personal and provocative topics. It was a good listen.
Something came up for me when you were reflecting on the origins of the self model–how there is a transition from the “me” to the “I.” It made me wonder if there is a similar transition from the “we” to a “collective I”? Obviously, there’s no pronoun currently for a ‘Collective I’ (“we won the game” is more coherent than “the collective I won the game”), but I’m wondering if something like a “Collective I” indicates an inseparable but more individuated constellating of beings than a we? Maybe that’s slicing it too thin, but something that came up.
The brief reference to The Respond dialogue around angels and demons was intriguing, especially since you’re writing a book about a once and future god. It seems like the angels can make us susceptible to falling into the ‘idealized self’ trap. And the demons seem like an over-vilification of the animal-body. My sense is the devil is just Christ dressed as a goat. And perhaps both are just projections of the Self anthropomorphized. That may be an oversimplification of things, but my experience with these forces of nature have pulled me in that direction. That’s my 2 cents for a Good Friday morning. Thank you!
I really enjoyed this conversation and the way that you and Rafe engaged in both personal and provocative topics. It was a good listen.
Something came up for me when you were reflecting on the origins of the self model–how there is a transition from the “me” to the “I.” It made me wonder if there is a similar transition from the “we” to a “collective I”? Obviously, there’s no pronoun currently for a ‘Collective I’ (“we won the game” is more coherent than “the collective I won the game”), but I’m wondering if something like a “Collective I” indicates an inseparable but more individuated constellating of beings than a we? Maybe that’s slicing it too thin, but something that came up.
The brief reference to The Respond dialogue around angels and demons was intriguing, especially since you’re writing a book about a once and future god. It seems like the angels can make us susceptible to falling into the ‘idealized self’ trap. And the demons seem like an over-vilification of the animal-body. My sense is the devil is just Christ dressed as a goat. And perhaps both are just projections of the Self anthropomorphized. That may be an oversimplification of things, but my experience with these forces of nature have pulled me in that direction. That’s my 2 cents for a Good Friday morning. Thank you!