Future Fossils Conversation - What good is conversation? What is good conversation?

Here is the raw file for a wild and strange conversation I participated in with Michael Garfield, Jonathan Rowson, Ashley Colby, Stephanie Lepp, and Jason Snyder. We talked about meta-cognition and the problem of the self-reflective loop, potatoes and chickens, and alien encounters. If you want to listen to the version produced by Michael Garfield for Future Fossils, with intro, outro and show notes, you can do so here